Swinging Through the Fairways: From the Tampa vs. California Rivalry to St. Louis and the Thrill of Upcoming Regionals

Speaker 1: 0:45

Right, chris, welcome back. How's everything going?

Speaker 2: 0:47

It's going good. Season is already kicked off. You know we're kind of on the roll and we'll see what what it holds for us, you know, moving forward hope everybody kept the memo.

Speaker 1: 0:59

Now we move the episodes from Wednesday to Monday, so let's be the second Monday episode and that's where we'll be going forward. But we got two great guests today. We got a tour director and a player from St Louis, and you want more, more tours or certain play tournaments.

Speaker 2: 1:16

Yeah, it's getting warmer around the country and we're starting to see. You know, march is usually the one where we see almost all Tours have a tournament that month. But it's nice to see, you know, that list, as far as the life-scoring is concerned, grow bigger and bigger every Saturday. It's nice to not have to Scroll down as far as we have to and you know, last year, you know, shout out to our web design team, that's, that's doing adjustments all the time. But it's good to see more tournaments being played every Saturday.

Speaker 1: 1:48

Yeah, it's great and we just also have the, the first senior regional, and so we got more regionals coming up as well.

Speaker 2: 1:55

Yep, it's, the regionals are fun. If you haven't gotten the one, I highly suggest you pick one. Pick one a year and go and have a good time with you and your friends. All right, ready? Get this one started, let's go.

Speaker 3: 2:15

Ladies and gentlemen, golf week amateur tour the podcast Talking about all things golf week amateur tour, including interviews with tour directors, players and course pros. Now here are your hosts and Lana tour director Tim Newman, and now pastel last cruises director Chris Rocha.

Speaker 1: 2:46

All right, welcome back everybody. Welcome back, chris, hope you had a good couple weeks.

Speaker 2: 2:50

Yeah, really did. Had a good tournament, good kickoff for for golf week about to start, kickoff for senior and already two events in. So it's been a great start of the year.

Speaker 1: 2:59

Yeah, and whether people realize or not, you know it's, it's February, so this episode comes out on February 12th. So we're almost halfway, really halfway through February and. The tours are rolling, man, we've got we've had a couple of regionals already. You know a bunch of the tours, especially in the South, already having tournaments. We've had the first senior regional, you know. So players are playing. So if you know, if you're listening and you're in the area that that can't start playing yet, travel in one of these cities that are already playing.

Speaker 2: 3:27

Yeah, go have some fun, Go meet some people. I'm pretty sure you've met people up from nationals if you've been out there before, so just go hang out, play some golf and get ready for your local tour to start.

Speaker 1: 3:36

Yeah, so hope everybody sticks with us through through the entire episode. At the end we're gonna we're gonna announce a couple things, chris. We do have two entries so far into the shirt contest, and yes, we do voting is taking place on that, so make sure you vote. And again what? We'll give you information that at the end. You know, Chris, but both these entries came from your tour, so you know. I hope you're not trying to stack the deck on this.

Speaker 2: 3:58

I am not. I'm just encouraging. When I see a nice shirt, I'm encouraging and letting you know what the rules are, and that's it. I mean I. I would hope all the other directors, if they see a unique shirt, would do the same thing. We can get this, this contest, rolling and hopefully bring it back another year.

Speaker 1: 4:13

Yes. So one thing I do want to mention about the shirt contest, and one it's already fun. Yeah, I've seen something, you know, both shirts. That I think the great. When you also meet your pictures, make sure that we have a close-up of the actual shirt so that we can, we can see, see what it is right. But anyway, let's bring our first guest in. You know he's, he's from the Tampa tour. You know, when I say tours already rolling, I mean they're, they're rolling they've already they've already had three events, so this let's welcome into Shane McAdams from Tampa.

Speaker 1: 4:42

Shane, welcome bud.

Speaker 5: 4:43

Hey how you doing. It's all good morning. It's a sunshine state, but we got like cold front blowing through right now, so we're getting rain and all that good stuff, but it'll go away in about two hours and we can hit the force again. That's how great it is in court.

Speaker 1: 4:56

All right. Well, let me ask you, when you, when you say a cold front, what?

Speaker 5: 4:59

is a cold front, florida actually mean it means 75, 15 degrees, maybe you know, Say it again it's probably gonna drop maybe 15 degrees by tonight or tomorrow. You know, our cold fronts are probably from Atlanta to here, are probably 20 to 30 degrees difference. So if it's 50 degrees where y'all are at, it's 72 degrees per becare. Oh, so it's. It's pretty good, our lows. We had a low down to about 36 Two weeks ago and everybody's always now ice on them.

Speaker 1: 5:39

So yeah, the whole world's coming in at 36 degrees, right.

Speaker 5: 5:42

I'd say the best thing about floor is, you know, floors, I guess, all made on sand. We're all saying right. So if you rain for a day, all day long, today, you go out play golf tomorrow and everything is pretty much dropped because all the water seeps through the ground and there's no mud holes, there's no nothing. We don't have mud, we got sand. So that's what. That's what makes it good. A lot of courses you know, any higher than Ocala further north, the United States, it's all month. So when it rains everything's a muddle. So we're pretty good if it rains, we just wait for to stop raining. Go the force. They'll give you your bucket of balls in the golf cart.

Speaker 1: 6:18

Say, yeah, plant get on out there, right? Yeah, yes, yeah, I was. I was in Florida, you know, down Orlando a couple weeks ago and it was, and it was nice. You know, walk around the shorts it was, it was nice. But you know, even here in Hilton had yeah, it's gonna be you know, high 50s, so it's nice here. I'm not complaining about you know high 50s. You know what? I moved from Pennsylvania. I think it's in the 20s up there today and you know that's us for the birds and just so everybody knows. You know you don't have to live where it's that cold. You don't have to live in Chicago. You don't have to live in Michigan. It's okay to come down where the weather is nice, you can play golf all year right, right, right.

Speaker 5: 6:54

Well, we teed off yesterday at 60 degrees and we finished our 18th hole at 72 mad.

Speaker 1: 7:01

And I feel bad for you guys this guy.

Speaker 2: 7:02

It was great, chris, that's perfect weather for you in it. That is must be nice.

Speaker 5: 7:06

It is. It is you come down here and join. In a couple months You're on place of good events.

Speaker 1: 7:12

Let me ask you a question. You know we had you and Don Rizner on at National Championship and, and you all talked about a unique team events that you all did. How did that work out?

Speaker 5: 7:23

It worked out pretty great. We kind of were kind of skeptical how it's gonna work out everything. I just got with Don. I told him look, I'll probably have more players than you because you're kind of still building your tour. Oh, we're always building our tour. I'm telling, and that's what's crazy, can't stop building, because what it is. I told him look, let's do something fun, let's make exciting and challenging. That's what we live for, that's why we play this game. And if we can't make our players grind and have that drive to compete, they're gonna lose interest.

Speaker 5: 7:52

So we decided to go in and how many players we have. They have, and we go through our roster and his roster and figure out what flight and whoever is the closest handicap to each other. Though, if you had a beef like God's 11 I had a beef like it was 11.1 they would compete against each other through the whole national. That we decided to throw a little Annie on top. Each player puts In 50 bucks on the side. So now they're competing for that and after it all sound fun and, don, I'm like you know what, let's make it interesting, don, let's uh bet my tour wins more than your tour. So so, so we had that on that. So now we had to push our guys. I had to push my guys like, look, dude, I'm got my money on y'all, you know. So now they're trying to win a golf tournament, now they're trying to win their 50 bucks and now they're trying to impress Our tour. You know what I mean. Mm-hmm, and they all, they all loved it. They all loved it. You know, even though it's kind of hard to find Don on the last day, you know, to make sure I got my five percent is from you know. You know, but I found you're sneaking around. You know I'm like you can run but you can't hide. But we enjoyed it.

Speaker 5: 9:04

I got a trophy. I mean, if had the trophy with me and go get it. We have a trophy that we're going to hold till next year and then we're gonna fight for it again. We're gonna display it, we're gonna show the players. Look, I thought about maybe sending it to Don, maybe two weeks prior, three weeks prior, and let him show his guys at the lat or Maybe even so, to show his guys. Look, this is a trophy that we lost to. We want to win. We've won the nationals with. This is like the last week to sign up or whatever. Here's the trophy. This is we're fighting for. It's not just about this or that. That. I need y'all guys to, as a team, to go take on Florida, you know, and that makes the players want to grind, want to drive, want to strive for something, and that's that's. That's how it came up with that, and we're ready next year and we're gonna get engraved. I was supposed to Tampa 2023 on the next year. Whoever wins be engraved, whatever 2024 shade.

Speaker 2: 9:55

I mean, let me tell you from somebody who loves Ryder cups and we have one with Arizona that's been going shoot something. This was our seventh year We've done it and we have a championship belt. I will purposely take that with me whenever I go to their events and I wear it to the range, I I tag it to my golf cart. I mean everybody sees it. I'll send pictures to Gabe once a month Just where that belt is at whatever course. Okay.

Speaker 5: 10:22

Okay, so I need a Recap. I need to send on a recap. Is that what we're saying?

Speaker 2: 10:27

Yes, just let them know. You know, the trophy is good, it's in good hands.

Speaker 5: 10:31

We can, we, can we can we pause this just for a second? I'm gonna get that trophy in about 10 seconds. We can hold it up that way, the way we see what the world since show the world was going on.

Speaker 1: 10:39

Yeah, actually go go get it, and then I'm gonna need you to send me a picture of it too.

Speaker 5: 10:44

Okay, okay, I hope just wants to Marie's. Actually she's the around the house. She's actually gonna grab it real quick.

Speaker 2: 10:51

Yeah, so you need to do that and that keeps the fire going. Yeah, right, I even. When I drove home with it, I put it in the seat belt, passenger side, buckled it up and said it's in good hands for the next year, don't worry.

Speaker 1: 11:04

We're gonna have Donna on here in a couple weeks because you know he's got a region coming up at the Dermond Royal Day and we're gonna get his thoughts and and see why he was kind of hard to find on when that last taste. See what's going on there.

Speaker 5: 11:19

Yeah, but listen, this is what we did on Friday. On Friday, the day after our first day of Nationalists, all his guys and him, we all met at the same restaurant. I brought 43 people, keep brought, you know, howard even brought California. We have 70 people in this restaurant. We took, oh, this restaurant. We let all the guys meet. All the guys we all had, you know, food, had drinks. We got to meet who they were playing against, cuz no one had an idea who they're playing against. They just had an A and so they got to shake their hands. So you're the guy I'm beat, taking your money Me. So that was even a more of a like oh my gosh, this is real, this is real right, this is real right. People, this is the realest you can get.

Speaker 5: 12:03

An amateur status term. I'm gonna make it that real and that's what I strive for these guys to go home, win or lose and realize that this wasn't no joke. This was a real golf tournament playing the ball down, putting everything out, no gimme's, no redo, snow, nothing. And Once players get that taste in their mouth, we got them hooked. And once we get them hooked, that's good, because then it makes the tour look better and everybody plays better and All that and. But the thing is with these guys we got to feed it to. We don't feed them what, what they're trying to get, and they don't know how to get there. You, we got guys 10, 15 years been playing and all that good stuff and they understand all that, but the new guys don't.

Speaker 5: 12:46

They guys don't write your scares like they pass up. Pass up that because they just don't know. If they want to taste that, they'll get in there, look at, and they'll be like I don't know if it's for me and when they have that and I can look at guys, I can see if these guys they don't have that, they're not sure what's up. Oh, but anyway, all right. So look, I'll show you what we've been, what, what are we got? Going on, see, y'all, see, I'll back up a little bit. This is it here. We go a little closer. So it's golf week game of Chateau, california golf week jam chore, tampa, ryder Cup. And I actually found a guy who's gonna engrave it on the back. I just been lazy not put it on there, but I got to do it before I send it to dawn or let him see it on on the back. Doing dates all you got To to represent.

Speaker 5: 13:33

And when the players start, see this, I take this to every tournament. I set it out on our table and everything and display it. Let everybody see what this is. And they go. What is this? Well, you know what you want to fight for something. Go to nationals and you can be part of this team. That's awesome, you know. So that's it. It's. It's pretty big. I say it's hard to tell. I can. That's probably 13, 14 inches tall. I.

Speaker 1: 13:56

You know well, send me a picture of that and any pictures that you have for for nationals. You know we, whether at the dinner or money changing hands, anything like that, and you know We've got, we'll make sure they get out as well.

Speaker 5: 14:10

Okay, cool, cool, cool. All right, man, and think about video and him paying me man, because I thought I said, look, I said, um, thank, we did cash, we did cash. We're not doing very well, we're not doing nothing. If his players aren't there to get paid, I'll Venmo ston the difference. I wanted all the players to be there. You can get paid to get paid, to get to our 50 dollars and and that way People see money changing hands and people are like you know why they, why they passing money for were they doing over there in Temple? Why the California? What's up, these guys, you know and I mean look at the guys are, these guys are grinders, they're, they're, they're coming, that's, that's, that's, that's that on on the rider cup. But I'm gonna have to end on a picture. You're right, pretty good idea.

Speaker 1: 14:56

I'm glad it worked out. But you know, as we look at at the 24 season, you know you guys already had three events, yeah, with with really good attendance and some good scores what's going on?

Speaker 5: 15:08

We, we've had a few good scores. Um, you know, what's funny is the way. I Can't blame it on the weather, I can blame it on the courses. Some of the courses we got lined up for the beginning of the season are tough. Are tough? People say, oh, we're only playing in 6300 yards. Our champ flight played in 6300 yards yesterday. Our lowest score was like a 77 and and it's because if there's not water, there's woods. If they're not water and woods, there's out of bounds and hazard. There's no misses. If you missed the fairway, you're dying right. And now when people play that and they realize that you know these courses are that tough. Actually we have players that don't play because the courses are tough, big and I'm like I can't, I can't, that is your game. This top is not the course.

Speaker 5: 16:01

I'll tell you what I'm doing to get the people and stuff to be involved. I'm making them part of the tool. I'm making them feel Like a human being, not just a donation to the tour. I make them all feel like they're part of. I Never let one guy stand Alone, stand there like their loss. If I see someone that looks lost or I Go introduce myself if I've never met him because you got a hundred guys, it's hard to keep up. And I got my veterans. I tell them, I said look me, you see someone standing around.

Speaker 5: 16:33

You stand around. I Said, if he looks brand new, go introduce yourself as in what's going on. Tell them look, well, you know, make him feel a part of this. I said, because if we don't have players, we don't have a tour. Right, uh-huh, I don't. I don't want the people feel like this isn't for me. You know what I mean? My d-flag players, my or my champ, like players, they're just as important. They are just as important as any other. Well, we love, we love our guys. And and Marie, she makes every person smile, even when they're they're having a bad day, and she should make some film wanted, right, that's. That's the key thing is making your players feel welcome, wanting and part of something. If you don't make them feel a part of Something, is they're gonna play two events and never come back right well.

Speaker 1: 17:21

I say it again, you're lucky that you haven't read, because you know if anything like me, when, when players come check in it, they don't want to talk to me. They won't talk to Jen, right?

Speaker 5: 17:30

It's. I don't know what it is, but yes, you know.

Speaker 1: 17:34

Yeah, but I'm looking at your, at your, you know, at the leaderboard from yesterday and your Patrick Terrell a flight he's not 75 who were over Yep, that's a really good score at that course too, because you know I played that course, I know I mean that's a good score that is a.

Speaker 5: 17:49

That is a great score because he is in a flight, right. But they play from the same t-box. A, be and champ, we all played from the same t-box Because that was their tips, right. But it plays like 6700 yards On a lot of these holes because you have to lay up. You have so many dog legs. You can only lay up it at 200 yards out, and now you're at 180 n 200 and if you don't hit the center of you go a little left or a little right. That's what makes it so darn difficult, right.

Speaker 1: 18:36

Yeah, and so again back to the leaderboard. You know your beef like winner skip angston skip. I got you give a shout to skip. Skip was A one of my guys from DC moved down, oh yeah, I love it. So it's good to see him up there I love. But let's talk about the, the regional you had. It is broke.

Speaker 5: 18:58

Well, the reason I was broke is it's coming up. You know, we got a few months out. We're trying to promote and get people out there signing up. I think it's a little slower this year, Don't know why it's a little slower on getting people signed up and everything only thing I can think of is they can't find the regional. I got a lot of players asking how come we don't play in a sport. I'm like, just we are. They goes down the roster, not on schedule, and I tell them I'm like, look it's, it's on the regional Schedule. They're like where's that at? And I'm like, well, you got to go. All the band that need to end. And they're like, oh, I didn't know that. You know the James brothers, right? Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 19:37

We didn't know James brothers.

Speaker 5: 19:38

Okay, they come play the regional tournament every time. They bring about five, seven guys and Tony and Tyrone, one, two they called me go outcome we're not doing in this book. They always came down to Innisfree. They had like a family vacation every year that come down here and I'm like we're doing it and they didn't find it. So I just let them know last week. So they're looking into it, trying to set the dates. So yeah, I just am. A lot of guys don't read the emails to get the notification. So I got a hustle.

Speaker 5: 20:09

Anyway, and it's bro, it is what it's gonna be. We're gonna play it three weeks after the after the vows bar. So it's going to be in perfect condition. You're not gonna have a bad spot in the fairway. You're not gonna have a green that doesn't roll any slower than 11 and a half probably, and that's gonna be crazy. So you just look at your balls. Well, so we're gonna. We're gonna do that. We're gonna play the island course first, which is Is harder than the copperhead. Island is tough. They, it's just unbelievably tough. So if you can beat the island, copperhead is gonna be walking the park. Everybody knows that. So so it's yeah, it's gonna be fun.

Speaker 5: 20:46

They got a nice place there, they got the resort, they got the pools, they get the restaurants, 20 minutes from Clearwater Beach. So a lot, of, a lot of people come down and play and the wives bring the kids and they say and they's playing golf and wife gets around, the car goes to the beach, goes down to where the movie the dolphin, the dolphin movie With no flipper or something. They put the prosthetic one on there. They did the movie the kids movie on it. I forget what it's called, but anyway that's right there in Clearwater. So they go down to the when you and we get to see that dolphin. They've made the movie and all that. So pretty cool.

Speaker 2: 21:20

There's a lot to do. Yeah, I was. I was planning on going there one year, a couple years back. Me and my brother had flights, hotel, everything booked, and I think it was the week before your tournament the whole country shut down for COVID. Oh yeah, so I haven't. I haven't been able to go back since been looking forward to it. Maybe, maybe we had this one the next year, tim, and our world tour that we're doing.

Speaker 1: 21:46

Oh yeah, I'm down to pretty much go anywhere. That's, that's nice weather right, right.

Speaker 2: 21:52

But yeah, I mean I've really been wanting to play your regional. It looks like a lot of fun. I mean, Copperhead at its own is gonna be Memorable if you guys can focus on golf and not the views. But Like you said, you know, just looking at the island course picture, it looks tough and there's a lot of water and if you know, friends with water, then you're in trouble. Yep, yep.

Speaker 5: 22:14

Yep, yep. Anyway, we're looking forward to a couple big events. We got this year, we got it, we got to. We got another event that we can make a regional. We might try to do it next year. It's on my roster, that's. If they give us next year again, we'll see how that. So a lot of people are like holy cow, shane, you got two of the baddest tracks in Florida on your schedule this year. Not just that is broke, it's called Lakewood National. That's where the corn fairy plays and it's, oh wow, unbelievable. We're gonna do a two-day there. That's, that's. That's gonna be nice.

Speaker 1: 22:49

Oh yeah, you're your local finals, that's. That's we real nice in yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5: 22:53

So We'll say and they gave you such good rates. But you know how I got that to work out? Tell them, is I got Marie to go in there and close the deal?

Speaker 4: 23:02

There you go I.

Speaker 5: 23:05

Couldn't, I couldn't get past the guy outside the gate. We got through the game as fast. Everybody in the hot seat say yeah, so. So, man, I give it to her. So I told her that time and I want to freaking real take care of her there.

Speaker 1: 23:20

The Chris may. Maybe that's the secret. You gotta get your wife to start calling on some of these courses and and.

Speaker 2: 23:27

I think I'm gonna have to try that next year. Well, her call courses.

Speaker 5: 23:30

I Tell you what. There's probably two or three courses that I did not get. I didn't get a Contact, didn't get anything. I didn't even get a bite on the hook. I left and nothing, nothing, nothing. Can't get phone calls back, can't get emails back. So I turn Marie on it and let me tell you, marie locks it in, locks it in out like man How'd you do that? And I'm like, oh my god. But you know she's, she's good at it, she's she's good at talking to people and good at negotiating. And you know the the big thing is is no, is not an option. You know. You tell me no, I'm just pushing hard. You know what I mean. Or they ain't gonna happen. Well, what are we gonna do to make it happen? What can wait? What's it going to take? I Tell you what it.

Speaker 5: 24:14

One reason our tournament yesterday, that course double booked. So I called the club pro. No one answered. Don't get a response back. I'm like what's going on? Let me figure this out. It's getting late.

Speaker 5: 24:26

So we decided to make a drive. We drove over there, drove to the gates, walk right in the pro shop, look for him, talk to him and say yo, what's going on? He did not realize. He thought he was talking to the same people, just different. You know what I mean, right, yeah? So anyway, I guess a squeaky wheel gets to Greece and Marie, you know, we go in here, talk to him and she spends two minutes saying, hey, you know, this is what's gonna happen to bubble ball. He says I'll make it happen. So we called the other people, realized he messed up and said look, sorry, you can't play it. So which is great, you know, because we got senior, you know. I mean, then they check looking for today, and today we got this little bit of storm blowing through and they canceled. And I'm like man, our guys have played in this weather. We played this weather or weeks ago, or we go every for now, 15 minutes. We played in it. We got wet.

Speaker 1: 25:14

After that happens for our guys should know that if the course is open, we're playing.

Speaker 5: 25:19

That's what I'll say. I can't control.

Speaker 1: 25:21

Right, so we're playing. So if Chris could get you some rain gear, little little bit of rains. I could hurt anybody.

Speaker 5: 25:28

I've learned, I've learned playing. That's it, that's it I was ashamed.

Speaker 1: 25:34

Thank you so much for spending some time with us. I really do appreciate it. You guys are doing some great things down there and and eventually you know Chris now get down to the regional.

Speaker 5: 25:43

Yeah, good luck, look it up. Look it up. I plan on I mean I plan on taking the trip out to another Tours regional we haven't picked it out yet where we're going. We try to do at least one a year. We try to travel at least a couple times. I got tours all over Florida, but I'm tired of playing with them guys. I like to play some.

Speaker 1: 26:02

Well, you always welcome up in Atlanta, that's for sure.

Speaker 5: 26:04

Oh, we will, we will, we will. We just trying to figure it out. You know what these terms? And tour and doing all this stuff. We don't have a lot of weekends. No, you're right, you know I got chores to do around the house and sometimes it is soft, it is really tough and and Rita, and take no for an answer.

Speaker 5: 26:22

We've already established that oh yeah, you can talk, I think everybody. Let me tell you she's good, though she's, she's good, she is down to it. You know she's a lifeline. She is a lifeline on a lot of things in life, yeah, yeah. So I appreciate that and a lot of people know that, even though you know we all think we're all painting the box.

Speaker 5: 26:44

But we want the best. We want this golf week am sure tour to be, not even a question, the best tour out there. We try to make it the best tour, the best payouts, the best trophies and the best players. You know that's, that's my goal is I don't take second. We're gonna have the most players, we'll have the most money given out and that's what we want. We want the word of mouth I to make this happen and keep it happening, right. So, anyway, you guys doing a great job. But you know the rain is about to stop. I might have to go play some golf. I don't know what y'all are doing. Oh yeah, don't look. Hey, don't scroll down and look at my scores. All right Cause.

Speaker 1: 27:27

I was just saying that's all right, but we already know it's hard to be being a tour director and playing in tournaments and doing well Well, my first practice shot is on the first hole, that's it.

Speaker 5: 27:39

And I'm like I don't get the warm. I mean, there's some courses I get to warm up a little bit, but sometimes I don't. And let me tell you, though, yesterday was just the opposite. A couple of tournaments last year that I have won is I've gone up there with no expectation and played the first hole with the first ball, with the first swing. I've won events not hitting the range. So it is what it is. How many of you know it is All right? Well, look, tim, I appreciate what y'all are doing over there.

Speaker 2: 28:09

Here's Stace Hi, bud Over there. We're good over here, don't worry.

Speaker 5: 28:13

All right, good deal. All right, man, we all have a good. I appreciate it and I'll talk to y'all soon. All right, take care, all right brother.

Speaker 2: 28:19

All right, tim. It's always a great time when we have directors on our podcast. It allows everybody to get to know all the directors around the tour itself. But Shane can talk and I'm pretty sure he's still talking. Finish the interview, get Don on and get the second half of this story from their writer cup.

Speaker 1: 28:42

Yeah, I'd love to hear what Don has to say. But you know, Shane has probably been one of the most passionate tour directors we've had on. I mean, he's into it and passionate about his players and passionate about the tour.

Speaker 2: 28:53

Yeah, he is, and I mean you can tell it. You know from the moment I met him that he enjoys what he's doing. He loves it and it's all about the members. You know that doesn't matter how people turn up, he wants to make sure everybody feels welcome. Like you said, if you see someone just hanging out in the corner and not talking to anybody, they're probably a new member and they need to meet somebody to feel comfortable. So you can just tell in the interview, like you said, that his passion for his tour and golf week in general is just huge.

Speaker 1: 29:22

You know he talked a little bit about how high the scores were at his recent tournament and yeah, okay, his champ scores were a little high but the other was. You know we're really right in line and that course that they played. You know I've played before. It's a tough course and for you know the A-flate player to shoot a four over 75, man, I'll tell you that A-flate player was having a really good day. Let's just put it that way.

Speaker 2: 29:46

Yeah, it seems like and you know I play some courses as well where the champ guys are playing a little bit closer than they're normally used to and you hear it at the end of the round how they're used to driver, you know pitching wedge, nine-hire in and now they have to figure out they can't go driver because that course or that hole is protected by so much that they gotta actually do math in club selection and that can throw a ball for off real quick if you're not used to it Exactly.

Speaker 1: 30:27

Well, let's go ahead and transition a little bit, Going from the warm weather and down in Tampa up to St Louis, where I'm sure it's a little bit cooler than it is in Tampa. Let's go ahead and bring in my friend Colin Dually from the St Louis tour. Colin, welcome bud.

Speaker 4: 30:42

Hey, thanks. Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 1: 30:45

Yeah, I just saw you a couple of weeks ago and the weather down here, you know, when you were here for the icebreaker it was relatively nice. It was we had some rain and then some nice weather and a little windy on Sunday, but weather was relatively nice. What's it like in St Louis today?

Speaker 4: 31:01

Currently it's about mid-50th, which is really warm for February. It's Mardi Gras up here, so big deal. Actually, today is the dog parade which is by, actually, wiford's daughter down at right now, but when I'm actually when I saw you down in the regional at the icebreaker, the cold weather followed me down, so I must apologize for that.

Speaker 1: 31:24

Well, to me it wasn't really that bad, and right now it's mid-50s here in Hilton, as we're about the same, but I do apologize for keeping from the dog parade.

Speaker 4: 31:31

Ha ha ha, ha, ha ha.

Speaker 1: 31:34

So you've been on tour for a while. So I don't know if you know all of this, but you've been on tours since 2016,. You probably know that, but do you know how many rounds you've played?

Speaker 4: 31:43

I don't, but I usually try and play with everyone I can get my hands on.

Speaker 1: 31:48

Well, you do. You played 125 rounds, including the last two that were in Hilton Ed's, so you know I won't count those. So you played 123 rounds in full season through 2023. So you're averaging a little over 15 rounds per year, so you don't miss. No, why is that? I mean because I mean you're not rare, but it's. We all know it's difficult. You've got a full-time job, you're married, you're, and I know your daughter and I know she keeps you busy. You know, how is it that you can, you know, do your schedule so that you don't miss and you make again, you make a commitment to this and don't miss. How'd that come about?

Speaker 4: 32:34

Yeah Well, so growing up in the Dooley household with eight kids and I'm the youngest of all of them my father would make time for golf. That was his sanity check, you know. Before you went into the restaurant he would go and he'd play nine. You know when you can start your day at nine, 10 am, and you know later nights and stuff after the dinner rush and everything. But that was one of my favorite memories with golf with my dad.

Speaker 4: 33:02

I didn't get into it like my brother's, the sister did, like when, you know, when I was younger. So I got into it when I was 25. And then I got the golf and bug and stuff and just realized that it really so. There's a family connection there and one of the bigger things is also kind of really gave me an outlet for my competitive nature, you know, aside from my job, you know, and an opportunity to practice acceptance. You know, the 125 rounds of the deep flight, you know. So like I would like to be higher, believe me I would. But you know I actually played a course yesterday. One of the Pete died at nine. Actually we have one in town and it's a fantastic course. That course usually chews me up pretty good, but yesterday I shot a 96,. We had a course that I normally average, probably, you know, 105, 108 easy, you know. Oh nice so in winter conditions. So again, things have improved and changed and it serves the water purpose of the journey.

Speaker 1: 34:12

Just wanna make sure I heard you right. Did you say practice acceptance? Is that what you said?

Speaker 4: 34:15

I did, I did, I did.

Speaker 1: 34:17

I teach Chris a lot about his putting and I hope to God he's not gonna practice acceptance with his puttings.

Speaker 4: 34:26

No, I just gotta take the action. That's what I'm responsible for. So you know that's what I'm. It's a 125 opportunity to take action.

Speaker 1: 34:32

That's what I'm doing.

Speaker 1: 34:34

Anybody, you know, when we talk to people, anybody that doesn't miss it. To me, it's one of those things that you know, as tour directors, we can't miss right Because we've gotta be there, right Cause we're expected to be there and run these tourings. But you all, as players, you choose to be there and that, to me, is one of those things that just gets me fired up about the season and making sure that we're taking care of everybody, especially, you know, the people like you who make that commitment and just don't miss.

Speaker 4: 35:06

Yeah, and I really appreciated my. I did have a season, as you know, st Louis Distorted Director for a year and that was great. I really enjoyed it. I would have loved to have done it. My, I continue to do it. I really it would have fit nicely, but just work, family commitment prevent me from doing that. And then also, really I had to be honest with myself about my ability to serve the tour the way I wanted and I just I could do the day of stuff, no problem, I mean just the straight about a 12 hour day, but whatever, it's not uncommon for me to work hard at something I want. And then, but the ability to do the tour, the growth for the region and the supporting and the recruiting and all that stuff that is absolutely vital to the success of the St Louis tour. I had to turn it over and I found a really, really great replacement for myself and I'm super happy with Tyler and Jamie and how well they're doing and doing everything that I couldn't do and in pretty fine form. So good on them.

Speaker 1: 36:12

Tyler and Jamie do a phenomenal job. I mean, every time I turn around, look at the website or look at Facebook, you know they're putting something else up there and it blows me away, and you know, like you said, you know if you can't do the weak stuff, we don't have anybody showing up for the tourmets, and that's you know. So it's critical. Again, tyler and Jamie are doing great. St Louis is thriving, but let's get into it to you a little bit more. You generally travel to at least one regional year and I saw you down in Hilton Head for the icebreaker. You know that's generally one that you had been. You either had not one or O'Conny, and that one kind of went away this year, but you were in Hilton Head. Are you going to any other regions this year?

Speaker 4: 36:57

Yeah, I was really excited. I don't have the money to go to Brandon Dune, but I saw American Dune's on there and I got real excited. Around the Memorial Day weekend we've been doing Whistling of Straits, which is absolutely hands down. I love those trips because they're bucket list trips especially. I mean Whistling is what. Ryder Cup was there years ago. I don't know if American Dune's hosted any PGA tour event, but I go to these regionals, I go to. You know, if the PGA tour plays on them, then for sure, like year run or Harvard Town which is part of the icebreaker, but American Dune's I just yeah, my family's played up in Michigan a lot and I've always wanted to make it up there. That gives me an excuse to get up there and it just it looks like a phenomenal course.

Speaker 1: 37:54

Yeah, chris, that's our next definite trip. There may be another one in between there, but that's our next definite trip and I'm looking at the website for that and how it revolves around the fold of honor. To me that's gonna be a phenomenal tournament and Michelle does a great job with the Michigan tour, so I know that she's gonna do a great job with that regional.

Speaker 2: 38:17

Yeah, so you know you've played a bunch of rounds, obviously with Gulf Week, but it sounds like you play rounds on your own as well. Tell us what you know, probably what your best round was, your most memorable round that you've had within your golf career.

Speaker 4: 38:32

Best round. Yeah, my best round. The first time I played Harvard Town was easily one of my favorites. I mean, it's just so nice being able to watch the RBC. It's such a cool course anyway. You know, just being there is great. But then I remember the year after I played that and then on, I believe 16th, at part three, with that guy's house right behind it, you know, right behind the green, and of course I pulled it into his yard, which is OB. And every time I see it and I've been doing this my daughter could probably quote me on this by this point but every time we watched that whole and the professionals play it my daughter's like don't go left, don't pull it in that guy's yard, it's OB, don't do that, you know. So it's just really cool like watching.

Speaker 4: 39:26

You know what my experience has been. You know how it really gives me a depth of appreciation from what the pros do beyond what I already have Just really makes me that much more real. For me, whistling straight to straight, that kind of just we, you know we don't get those kinds of wins and those kinds of conditions and stuff that you have to play into in St Louis. You know we're in the middle of the B River Valley. It's not too windy, unless there's a tornado, and those don't last that long, you know. We'll come right out afterwards. Fine, they're holding the ground at four, you know. But yeah, whistling straight for sure. Tpc deer run, that's a fun course for sure, and it's only like four hours away from us.

Speaker 1: 40:12

So Well, I remember that the first time I was up at whistling straights that was probably you know I can't even tell you how many tournaments that to me was probably one of the most fun events and tournaments I've ever been a part of being at that course and you know the hospitality that they gave us and you know we actually had perfect weather that day. You know, when we were on the straights course, you know it was a long day, so everybody had a great time. I mean we were hanging out till we passed and when we should have been, but that was probably, again, one of my most fun events that I've ever been a part of.

Speaker 4: 40:51

Yeah, and I'll say one of my favorite things for sure is is, you know, like you said, I've played a lot of rounds and I've traveled a decent amount. There is a certain, you know, there's a certain Breida guy, that the same guy that travel in the region, the national stuff, and I've made a lot of really good friends. You know that. You know, and I mean I've really never met anybody. You know that I haven't really liked or, you know, whatever, If I, if I don't like them, I just don't talk to them. It's that simple. I'm out there to play my game, you know. I mean it. Friends is kind of a side benefit to really at all. I mean it is pretty cool. You know, having done this since 2016 and it's almost in the 80 years, you know meeting a lot of different people and, yeah, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1: 41:37

Yeah, chris, and his brother do a lot of traveling to regionals, so he he went to. He went to listen straights the second year that I was up there Isn't that right, chris? When you were there.

Speaker 2: 41:47

Yes, it was. It was the second year I remember I ever seen Tim come up 2016 telling us to hurry up because we're running behind. So, yeah, so actually.

Speaker 1: 41:56

But both those times we we were rushing getting People off the course because it was Getting dark, right funny, funny story, chris, that not many people know about that. After that round, you know we're packing everything up and we realize we're missing two of the close to the pins. Oh, okay, and another tour director was there and I said we're missing two to two close to the pins, and then he disappeared and now we can't find him. He's walking around the course. It's just like 10, 30, 11 o'clock at night. So we're still there 10, 30, 11 o'clock night. He's walked around the course in the park that we knew where he was, she and and we found him in the in the Caddy shack, found the clothes, found the close to the pins in the caddy shack, not the tour, not him.

Speaker 2: 42:45

Yeah, I hope he showed up too.

Speaker 1: 42:49

Well, we were gonna leave him. We got him and and Needless to say, he didn't drive home. Obviously good times, colin. You know you. You said you're practicing Acceptance. You know, is there any part of your game that you're that you're working on for this year to get better at?

Speaker 4: 43:04

Yeah, no, I mean I'm, I'm for sure, working on my game to improve. I that acceptance thing is so that I can stay focused over the shot that I'm in and at that moment, you know, because that you know, one thing that that has helped me for sure is Thing keeping my focus. You know, sometimes the rounds get to be five hours and it really is a discipline to not and if you watch my scores Because my wife will watch my scores alive leaderboard at still with some of my friends I said I'm so I mean you know they take my money and all that. That I'm so, uh, don't. My wife has noticed several times and and some other people have said man, you do really great and then around whole, you know between 12 and 15, you know it kind of comes off and you know I've I've got. You know I've got food. You know I've got like I got a snack at old snack regimen I had, you know, energy drink. You know, like I don't like slam those all the time but taking those I was reading articles about how you know the pros they hydrated and you you know if throughout the round and eat their focus and stuff and Basically mental errors is is absolutely something I always try and keep in mind, because that's 100% preventable, at least, or at least that's the closest thing I have to control over that, and it's gotten.

Speaker 4: 44:24

It's gotten a lot better. You know when, when there are mistakes, they need to be. I would rather have them be things where it's just golf you know, just golf happening. You know, as opposed to just being like I just I would was really Wishing for something, to, to manufacture something. As opposed to like having a process, yield, result right, there's a lot of, there's a lot of. So like Practice out there for sure, you know, with a ball on a stick and a man taking a dream.

Speaker 4: 44:57

Trust me it doesn't get easier.

Speaker 2: 44:59

It doesn't get easier.

Speaker 4: 45:01

But you know, that's not the point, you know that's the beauty of it, you know right.

Speaker 2: 45:05

I mean, if you've heard the podcast Recently, you know my struggles with putting has been. I think now it's just more mental than than the stroke. So I Completely understand what you're saying picking a putting.

Speaker 4: 45:18

I was looking at the at the meridian putters they had displayed down there had the icebreaker and I really, really, really liked those. And then I came back and and oh, I was the putter that I have been using as very, very it's a concrete center block brick. You know it's an oddity, it's fine, but it definitely doesn't have that milled face. And then I've, you know me, a couple. I think the, the lighthouse version, has copper inlay in it. And Boy was that I had all kinds of Good good feels on those faster greens at Harvard Town.

Speaker 4: 45:54

Those greens are stupid, fast and and with a heavier kind of less feely putter that I that I've been rocking for years. That's fine in Missouri. You know what I mean when you're putting on those. You know our greens aren't that fast, typically Not the same as when I get down To the southeast or you know better courses elsewhere. Man, I need like almost a half a day just to kind of adjust to the speed and to and not the extra roll out that I'm not used to. It really is a hardcore judgment. Oh yeah.

Speaker 1: 46:27

I hope you get one of those meridian putters and this this isn't a meridian segment, but you know what was down at the PJ show a couple weeks ago and I talked to the guys and they got a. They got a pretty big award. They were named to the golf digest hot list.

Speaker 1: 46:41

Yeah, I thought that's me, which is huge, which is, I mean, it's huge for them. And they've also got a contract with Dick's boarding goods, oh nice. So I mean you know that's, that's, that's huge, especially, you know, for it's one guy and One guy machine shop is doing that. That's that's huge for them and proud of them and glad that they're partnering with us and the tour.

Speaker 4: 47:05

Well, that's the one thing that kept me from buying it is is P. You know I was able to use it down there, but then I was like reading up on them and their mill faces and and like the different, and they do a pretty good job of explaining it. But again, feel, feel and quite frankly, like what's got a Cameron and Barton already I'm saying that right, and those other ones are like 400 bucks. They're not that great. I go up to golf gal. Yeah, I hit him like I don't really know that that much of the difference. You know, maybe the their, how they look, how they suit my eye might be a little bit better. But the price point, right where it needs to be, in my opinion, and you know I'll, I'll spend that much money on it, on a good putter for me, and maybe that's more to test into my skill level, but it still even I don't know I golf equipment has gotten in vain, like Do I just like him.

Speaker 4: 47:56

He awesome golf right, yes, right, exactly, and getting pretty Prosper, inhibitive really. So that's been kind of a challenge I was thinking about. I don't know if they've got a display up in American Dune in May, but I kind of hope they do, because I would love to get another chance to really test their gear out and Find what really suits me. Yeah, I didn't buy in Hilton head only because they didn't have one. That was like all of them were like 34 or whatever, and I'm six foot two. That was just not gonna work, you know, otherwise I would have thrown it in my bag that day right.

Speaker 2: 48:29

Hopefully they're out there. I'd like. I've been excited to try them. Wasn't able to see him in Vegas, but, uh, can't wait to see. You know, to compare it to my putter of that, I thought was great and apparently not that good. Tim gives me a hard time because he's always asking me how many puts you today? How you put your today and I have. That's the only goal I missed in my 2023 goals was put everything else Gotcha Blue out of the water. That was the only one that I Literally struggled with right, that's right.

Speaker 1: 48:59

You're gonna get it down, and I mean, it's still only February. You'll be fine. You'll be fine. I got faith in you.

Speaker 2: 49:07

I got. I have a little bit of faith in myself.

Speaker 1: 49:09

We'll see you gotta have more faith, you're gonna be fine, I'm practicing.

Speaker 2: 49:13

What was it? Acceptance?

Speaker 1: 49:15

Yeah, no, we don't want you to practice acceptance.

Speaker 4: 49:21

But yeah, these, these regionals are fantastic, you know. So you got the American dunes. I was looking at the, the Cajun classic, you know, we're actually driving down. My family and I are driving down to Florida and Over spring break and over the same paddies day weekend, we've got True blue at Paul E's, which can be a bit too far for me, but I was. If it wouldn't cause such such a rocket, I would go down to the Magnolia classic because we're driving down. I don't know what awesome were around Nashville, do a quick, did two-day golf tournament and meet them in Orlando.

Speaker 2: 49:58

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 49:58

I would totally do that. You think I'm kidding, I'm not.

Speaker 1: 50:02

I Know you're not kidding, but I also know that's not. That's not even. It's a non-starter. Don't even bring it up. No, no, man can dream that but you, you know, you talk about the, the Louisiana regional. So so Chris and I are doing back-to-back. So we're Two weeks in a row, we're, we're fine to Michigan and find right back to Louisiana. So if you, if you want to join us, we'd love to have you Well be in there.

Speaker 4: 50:29

Yeah, if you want it. Yeah, I can use your club. You want to. You know, check me out as your carry on. That's fine, you know, I don't know if I'm fit and well.

Speaker 1: 50:38

So what you, what you, what you don't know is is when we travel for this, I got what we call the big-ass box. It's big box. Yeah, carrying that thing around in love itself is is a is an adventure.

Speaker 4: 50:52

Yeah, but.

Speaker 1: 50:54

Anyway, are there any other course or tournaments that you're really looking forward to playing this year?

Speaker 4: 50:58

Yeah, around here, shout out to Tyler and Jamie. You know they're really stacked a good local season for us. We're playing the. We got a two-day tournament right in the beginning, right in the front of the season. That's, that's special. We don't really ever do that. We usually wait until later in the spring, sometimes March of St Louis. It was a little volatile. I actually had a tournament last year St Patrick's Day. We played that same course and it was 28 degrees with like a sustained, like 20 mile an hour wind. It was no pick us. We had. We actually had a friend of mine, edmund Rowe, come down from there, milwaukee and play with us and I quit that day. I've never quit and all the Like.

Speaker 4: 51:44

I'm like the mailman when it comes to golf. Nothing, stop, I mean, this is getting delivered. You know, I'm signing that, that card, no matter how, how hard it is, I'm, I'm signing it. I'm turning in. I Couldn't do it. I couldn't, you know, and I was layered out and I know how to be outside when it's not great and that day still be otherwise, but anyway.

Speaker 4: 52:04

So we're going back there two days. There we got some pretty Missouri blubb. They've played PGA events at my put. Peevely farms is also one where you're kind of you know, at that level College and high school golf love to go to Tapuango. And then, you know, I started doing this because I wanted to get our guys for Nationals and I always talked at Nationals when I was a tour director and I've passed this along and Tyler's seen it this way too, I think. But we we always end with a two-day at Faro in Illinois. We're right on the Missouri Illinois border and those greens are about as comparable as we can get here and they are down and and Hilton head. So I really like that one to get people prepared and in doing two days there and really putting pressure on people and, you know, really just trying to prep them for what they're gonna come up against, cuz I gotta represent down there. So yeah, I'm looking forward to the 2024 theater.

Speaker 1: 53:08

Well, good, you know, again, tyler's doing a great job. And you know, the other day I just happened to get on Facebook and you know, I think you and I talked about this. Yeah, he was doing a free raffle for Entry into the first tournament and did did the wheel names thing, which I think is is cool anyway, but it's just that humor, I guess. But you probably need to talk to him because I don't know if you actually saw the wheel names thing go around, but but you just missed it. You were number seven and and the winners it was Tom Persley and it was ready to stop on you and then it just kind of went right to Tom.

Speaker 4: 53:42

So I think you probably need to need to talk Tyler about that and yeah, yeah, I'll just, I'll just practice acceptance and then I'll just really focus on actually winning. You know, you're my own reconnaissance. I'll just, I'll just go out there and take it the old-fashioned way.

Speaker 1: 53:59

You know what I mean. There you go, we'll take that too.

Speaker 2: 54:01

That's right. Yeah, so I mean, you know it sounds like you have a great time with your tour, but one thing that we like to ask all the members that we do have on our show is what's one thing that brings you back, that keeps you coming back year after year? You know, even to like, like you said, you traveled all these regionals. You know what, what brings that excitement to be able to go and travel for these events.

Speaker 4: 54:25

It's really just, it's the competitive outlet that I, I feel like I have in my house. I grew up with sports in my house at the kid. I feel like it's a wonderful teacher or just good living, you know, and I instill that into my own daughter and you know, and I I don't believe that being like Not totally obsessed with sports, you know one, it's work time, it's work time. It's family time, it's family time. But you know my own personal time for my own Perspective, to maintain a good perspective on life and health and all that stuff I think sports is is a really good Outlet for me and in this constructive, you know I, I do in in Bathman's for a living, so that that's a highly competitive, almost contact sport at that time and stuff. And and you know what I mean, it's a golf, is a stress reliever, you know it's.

Speaker 4: 55:19

Also there's a lot of strategy. I heard it, I can't remember who made this quote, but they're basically like look, you know, four and a half hour rounds are like, look, that's four and a half hours of problem solving right there. That's what that is, you know. So you know that I like that. I like it. It suits my analytical nature, you know and and you know there's. I love the ability to just kind of look at a given situation and and play it different ways and just be what I can come up with. You know there's creativity, but there's also, you know, high application to a strategy.

Speaker 2: 55:54

No, I was gonna say I I like what you said there and I think you know, as you said, that I was thinking about the courses I've had great success on and they're the ones where it makes me think About how to hit this shot or what I need to do, as opposed to you know the course I play, what every other week where it's okay, I'm gonna add this shot because I've done it so many times and you seem to play it worse every time that you that you play that whole. But these new courses Makes you think for a while about what you need to do to at least get your best opportunity at at least the par.

Speaker 4: 56:27

I will say, and I'm glad you said that of To further that question. I was actually, like I said, I was at a peat die course here, which old hickory around here is the private course, and Friend had me on beautiful. We walked the course. It's bunker like any peat die course that had so many interesting, like little. You know ways that are features of it and everything, and you know I was talking about like man, I would love to be a member out here but I've actually foregone being a member of private club. Nothing against them, they're great courses but I really do like this spirit of the tour. You know being in a different place. You know, even, even if I play, you know the standards that we have Spencer teal and Missouri bluff, peaveley farm, the fall. You know these are all courses that we play every single year but I only play it once right.

Speaker 4: 57:24

And you know it's. I mean, it brings me back in the days when I was, you know, playing competitive sports. You only play this one high school once this season. You know, I mean, if you beat them, like you know I played water polo, for you know all of high school stuff. You know St Louis University high school had one of the best teams and we played them. If you could kick the shit out of them, you were gonna find that and the winners are close the end and we'll see what. What's what you know, and like there are courses like that. You know you come up against some of the monsters and you do well on that. You know you could test, for you know what would shape your games and you know it'll tell you a lot.

Speaker 2: 57:59

Oh yeah, goff, will humble you real quick.

Speaker 1: 58:01

Yeah, and that's a pretty good Perspective as well. Well, I appreciate you taking some time with us again. Sorry, you missed the dog parade. Give my best to, to your, to your family. You know I feel about you guys and really looking forward to seeing you in a couple months.

Speaker 4: 58:17

You bet Great talking to you.

Speaker 2: 58:20

Yeah, but take care, tim. It was great, at least from my point, to meet Colin. I know you've known him for a while but he sounds, you know, like like all of our Members that that do show up all year long. You know every tour has. I went, I don't say a handful, doesn't seem like a lot, but there's a good. There's a good amount of members that every tour has that shows up consistently. You know you can count on them and At some point when you don't see the registration, you kind of hope that there's nothing wrong and text them to see if everything's okay, because those are the guys that that you know are gonna be there rain, snow, ale, wind, cold, whatever they're gonna be out there.

Speaker 1: 58:59

Yeah, and Colin's great guy. I mean he doesn't miss, he's fun to play with, he's fun to be around. He's one of those guys that doesn't matter how he's playing, you know he's picking everybody else up, no, but making sure everybody is having fun and having a good time. When I was in st Louis, he was be the one that everybody would say can I be paired with Colin? I'll be paired with Colin, can't be paired with Colin, you know. So you know it's great having guys like him. Like I told him, I said we need more Collins on the tour.

Speaker 2: 59:29

Yeah, yeah. They're great Recruiters, you know, and it just shows everybody what the tour is all about and that's that it's not just about golf. Yeah, is golf competition the main thing, of course? I mean, we're here to try and win the tournament, but it's those members that you get to meet and make a lifelong friendships with. That Can't? You?

Speaker 1: 59:54

just can't be yeah, yeah, you had torn a couple weeks ago. We were switch gears for just a second year. You know, you had torn a couple weeks ago and we only had to had two entries for the For the shirt contest and they both came from from your tour. So what do you, what are you telling these guys in terms of Get them to submit their their shirts and pictures?

Speaker 2: 1:00:17

Yeah, I mean I noticed that they had a very unique shirts when they came into check-in. Typically at this time this time of year it's cold, so I wasn't expecting to see much, you know, with outerwear and things like that. But when I did see it, it was, it was great to see and I just, you know, I asked them. I know one of those avid listener to our show. He sent me a picture every time when he's listening to it on in his Tesla and it's just like, you know, I appreciate it. So I asked me, said, hey, you know about the shirt contest, right? He's like, yeah, but I don't think I qualify. I'm like it doesn't, it's unique, and that's unique to hell on head, that's unique to to golf in general. So I would Consider wearing your shirt the whole time and submitting it. And sure enough he did.

Speaker 2: 1:01:04

There was another one, one of my playing partners. I had a nice shirt. He was showing it off because he's not used to seeing Cactus around. So he was like, look at what my wife bought me, this and that and I, you know, just explained to him hey, we have this shirt contest. You want a free trip to nationals? This is the way to do it and he submitted it. He needed a little more help than the other one, but we were able to get it done and I'm glad that they were. You know they did it correctly, because I'm not gonna hold their hand and help them get through it, but we were able to get that completed, which was nice.

Speaker 1: 1:01:37

Yes, so we've got entries from, from Jordan Moro, that's. I say Moro.

Speaker 2: 1:01:42

Yeah, jordan Moro, what, what flights? Ian, he's in B flight. He's a little mad. He's a little mad because I keep a, I keep beating him and since I moved up he hasn't won an event.

Speaker 1: 1:01:54

so so should he be practicing acceptance probably. So so Jordan Moro from from the B flight and and Drake Weir is from the A flight.

Speaker 2: 1:02:06

Drake's a great guy. Second year on on tour, I mean he's loved it ever since and he's bringing in new members, which is nice to see as well. It's good to see his group coming in and now Hopefully has a chance to go ahead and take that.

Speaker 1: 1:02:20

Yes, so you know we got voting going on now, so so hopefully we'll we'll be able to announce a winner in our next episode, which comes out on the 26th of February. So if you know again lots of tournaments going on, please make sure you you check the show notes for the website with all the rules on how to enter and you know, get, get these shirt entries in those. You know, as the season goes along, there's gonna be, you know, more and more people playing and more and more, more, more entries. So make sure. Also, make sure you go to Facebook to vote for the winner of Of the January contest as well.

Speaker 2: 1:02:55

Yes, you know, not mind to toot my horn or anything, but, uh, go ahead and vote for my guys. Is this? That's pick one, because obviously we can only have one, but that's one of eight that I've already made it into the bracket right? So now we're in February and if you haven't either a taken us serious about this competition or b things that you don't have a chance, hey, two guys submitted their entries three days before the month and then now one of them has a one in eight chance of getting nationals paid for the one thing I do want to mention here and you know I'll update the, the, the rule sheet with this is make sure you take a close-up of the shirt so that we can actually see the detail.

Speaker 1: 1:03:39

Yeah, that's part, that's part of this. You, we, yeah, these two guys submitted good pictures, but we want to really see that, the detail of these shirts, to be able to be able to evaluate their, their worthiness.

Speaker 2: 1:03:51

Let's just say right now, I agree, and and I think that was on me because they they kind of asked me if it was a good enough picture and I thought it was, but when you did bring it up, it's it's really good to Be able to see the, the design itself, without having to zoom in on whatever device you're using it. Right, right, well, so that I'll take responsibility of that one.

Speaker 1: 1:04:14

No, that's all right. I mean what? Here's one, chris, you know we, we give you our time about your putting and I know that's gonna change. But what most, most of our listeners don't know is, you know, when it comes to the technical aspect of the podcast, chris's is definitely the driver here. There's anything that goes wrong, he's one who fixes it. And you know, with both the interviews for this episode and a little bit of technical difficulties in connecting and, and Chris, you know, jumped on it and got her guests connected. So I'm not giving you, I'm not gonna give you a hard time about, about pictures.

Speaker 1: 1:04:51

You know the you, these guys have been all have phones and has been taking pictures for a long time. That's kind of one them.

Speaker 2: 1:04:59

But you know I mean good. Honestly I was. I wish I was able to to enter. I did get my shirt that I purchased from Mr Butler was a guest on a show a while back and that thing is fire, so I can't wait to put that shirt on this weekend.

Speaker 1: 1:05:17

It is nice, it is comfy. Take a picture of it anyway, oh.

Speaker 2: 1:05:22

I will. I already send it to him and I, and Then, ironically, he was wearing that same shirt that same day that I received it. So he sent me pictures like, oh, I like your shirt as well, and he had the same ones, though it was cool to see. But if you haven't checked out, you know Butler golf definitely check them out as well, because he was a sponsor and it's it's some great designs that he has.

Speaker 1: 1:05:48

So you know, as we've been talking about, we've got some big things, you know, in the works. Over the next few weeks we're gonna be getting a new website for the podcast. So we're actually working on that now and so as soon as that comes out We'll let everybody know. But the new websites can be pretty much attached to we're through the the tour website. It's gonna give us a lot more flexibility. You know we can post pictures. You know, if we had it last year when we talked to James brothers, the thing about the pictures that we call that they sent us that might have crashed the the webpage with all those pictures.

Speaker 1: 1:06:26

Ash Ainsons pictures. You know and and you know for this episode and you know once that what, once the website's up, we'll be able to post those. But again, we're gonna have a lot more functionality For that for you all listeners to be able to go to and find information and maybe interact with us a little bit.

Speaker 2: 1:06:43

Yeah, I'm excited to see that. I know you, we talked about a little while, but uh, that's what we want. We want the interaction with the tour members and that's why we're doing, you know, these regional travels and Trying to get all these. If you win, a region will get you on the, on the show or a national championship walking around getting interviews, because this podcast is for y'all. It's not for our enjoyment, even though we do enjoy doing it. It's for you guys to have another way to interact with Everybody that's on tour.

Speaker 2: 1:07:12

I think, that's just a great thing that we have to offer.

Speaker 1: 1:07:15

All right. So, Chris, uh, you've got a tournament. You got tournaments coming up.

Speaker 2: 1:07:18

I do. I have a to this month, and then my seniors kick off as well.

Speaker 2: 1:07:24

Okay, you guys will be able to get. There is going and you know it's it's all hands on deck until End of October. Yep, the national championships over that's. It's gonna be a blur, but I can't wait. You know I enjoy this every year and Can't wait to see you guys again Hang out with, hang out with you at our regionals. And I'm gonna take a surprise guest of me to Louisiana. I know Gina is gonna be excited to meet this guest.

Speaker 1: 1:07:49

Yeah, I am too. I've not met, met this person yet, so I'm excited to do that. So it'll be a good time and Maybe we should, you know, revisit our schedule and see what, see what else we can see what else we can get to. Yeah, I'm open for anything. All right, my friend. Well, you have a good couple weeks and and we'll talk to you, and we'll have a talk to you soon.

Speaker 2: 1:08:11

Yes, sir, we'll see you then, be safe, take care.

Speaker 4: 1:08:38

I you.